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 楼主| 发表于 2011-12-28 19:54 | 只看该作者
看到B车的时候距离就很近了,松开油门不是为了让他,而是不知道他会怎样,松开油门是对自己的一个保护。保险公司基本判定我的车报废,没有修的必要,车也确实是在刹车不住的情况撞上C车的
Post by 山高人为峰;3024288
同情LZ的好心

但是从另外一个角度分析:LZ说"..互相看着对方,..松开油门(意味着在40~42KM/H的基础上减速),B车犹豫了一小会(看到你减速礼让,他就开始转弯了),....我马上刹的车,...肯定是要撞上的(你再和其他第3辆路边静止的车碰撞就...)"

提醒:速度慢和好心礼让不一定安全和免责,B车有停牌你就不应该让他,他自己会判断是否可以安全地转弯的,你要做的就是保持速度即可。

问题:A车头部和C车车尾侧面(C车损伤程度10%左右),怎么A车就损伤程度50%左右?也应该损伤不大的吧?因为A是带着刹车的

同意1a2b3c的分析
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发表于 2011-12-28 20:30 | 只看该作者

车被撞坏了,责任怎认定

觉得应该问清楚你保险公司的 adjuster, 。。。
依据CID保险理赔法则,你的车由你的保险公司赔偿,C车由其保险公司赔偿,然后他们公司之间再商讨索赔。但你是否是100%责任,还应好好跟你的保险公司的理赔员好好商量,就要看看你是不是遇上明白人。
如果你是100%责任,对你的影响,下3年你的保险费用要上调,最好在你的合同到期3个月之前或更早,再问讯其他的保险公司,如果你的保险公司拒绝更新合同,这样很糟。


Post by maplemtl;3024783
看到B车的时候距离就很近了,松开油门不是为了让他,而是不知道他会怎样,松开油门是对自己的一个保护。保险公司基本判定我的车报废,没有修的必要,车也确实是在刹车不住的情况撞上C车的
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-12-28 20:38 | 只看该作者
@                                                                                                                                                                                太阳花:C车离路口肯定不足5米,不过保险公司没问我这个问题,到时根据情况看是不是需要提一下。看了你找的一些资料,谢谢。

@                                                                                                                                                                                1a2b3c: 点刹是个好方法,要多训练一下才行,当时距离太短,我怕一松开就撞上去了,不敢松开,或许是经验不足。 关于在左道行驶,也是个办法,不过好像有人提过紧急情况下没观察仔细又临时变线,也是有风险的,我当时刚过桥洞不久,平常有一般没有特别情况不走快车道的习惯。

@Z!Z : 要尽力和保险公司争取的,如果说B一点没责任,也该给我能被说服的理由或者法律

有的时候出事情不是自己的车造成的,多观察路面,积累经验。
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发表于 2011-12-29 20:37 | 只看该作者
给大家找了一份关于保险的资料,供参考。(http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/ON/No_Fault.asp



No-fault Insurance: What’s it All About?

It does matter who caused the accident.

You certainly can't be blamed for being confused about the term "no-fault" insurance – it’s a commonly misunderstood term. No-fault insurance doesn't mean the insurance company lets you off the hook if you cause an accident. Despite the misleading name, it does matter who caused the accident. If you are found to be at fault, either completely or partially, it will go on your insurance record and you will have to pay the penalty. That means you may experience an increase in future premiums.
You deal with your own insurance company.

No-fault coverage pays for some or all of the insured person’s loss regardless of who caused that loss. With no-fault insurance, you would look to your insurance company to pay your claim, even if the other driver caused the accident.
No-fault insurance really means that if you are injured or your car is damaged in an accident, you deal with your own insurance company, regardless of who is at fault. You don’t have to go after the at-fault driver for vehicle damage reports and for the health care and income replacement benefits to which you are entitled.
For example, if you were injured in a car collision, you would be able to access any medical benefits offered under your policy immediately from your company, even if you were to blame for the accident. You can get the help you need right away, instead of having to wait for the insurance companies to decide who was at fault before paying out any benefits.
How does your insurance company assess fault?

Someone is always determined to be “at fault” in an automobile accident, whether partially or completely. Insurance companies must determine the degree of fault to be assigned to each driver to ensure the at-fault driver’s premiums are adjusted appropriately.
In Quebec and Ontario, charts or rules are used to determine fault or responsibility for Direct Compensation – Property Damage claims, but not for injury claims. In Ontario, the fault determination rules are set out in government regulation. The regulations contain examples of common types of collisions and describe how fault is assigned for insurance purposes. These regulations help insurance companies provide consumers with prompt claims handling and fair, consistent treatment. After you report an accident to your insurer, the company will investigate the circumstances of the accident and then make a fault decision based on these rules.


The fault determination rules:

  • cover more than 40 accident situations, using diagrams to illustrate specific scenarios;
  • can be applied to almost every possible road collision scenario; and
  • apply regardless of road or weather conditions, visibility, point of impact on the vehicles, or the actions of pedestrians.
The circumstances of a collision may show that more than one driver was negligent. Each driver's insurance company may then become involved in the settlement based on the degree of responsibility attributed to each person. If there is a dispute about responsibility, court action may be required to resolve it.
How do police charges or convictions affect your insurance company’s decision?

If police don’t file charges, it doesn’t necessarily mean the insurance companies investigating the circumstances of the accident will not find one or more of the drivers involved at fault.
For example, if a vehicle was unable to stop on an icy road and rear-ended another, a police officer may say that neither of the drivers was “at fault.” Such a comment applies to the laying of charges and should not be taken as an opinion about how fault applies to an auto insurance claim. In a case like this, the insurer would apply the rule stating that a vehicle that rear-ends another is at fault.
Can fault in an automobile accident be shared?

Yes. The circumstances of an accident may show more than one driver was partially at fault for insurance purposes. Fault is allocated to each driver based on which accident scenario most closely resembles the accident. If the accident is not described by any of the scenarios, then fault is allocated according to the rules of negligence law.
How does an at-fault accident affect me?

You can be anywhere from 100% to 0% at fault. Any driver who is more than 0% at fault will have an “at-fault” accident on his or her insurance record.
If you are found at fault for any percentage of the accident, your premium may go up on renewal. However, some companies allow you to maintain your driving record or premium after your first at-fault accident. To confirm your company’s approach and how your rates will be affected, check with your insurance representative.
In many cases, if you have your first at-fault accident after six or more years of claims-free and conviction-free driving, your premium may not change or may increase by a relatively small amount. Most companies will change your driving record to reflect the accident and then increase your premium by a small amount. You will then need six years of accident-free driving before you go back to a clean slate.
If this is your second at-fault accident in the last five years, you can expect your premiums to increase quite significantly.
If you have any convictions or cancellations of a policy in addition to an at-fault accident, or are an inexperienced driver with an at-fault accident, you may be considered to be a high-risk driver and be placed with an insurer specializing in these types of risks.
When you are shopping for insurance, you should always ask the insurance representative how your premiums will be affected after an at-fault accident.
Also, remember that when you lend your car to someone, you’re also lending him or her your insurance. If the person who borrowed your car has an at-fault accident while using your car, the accident will go on your insurance record, and your insurance premium could go up.
What can you do if you disagree with your insurance company’s assessment of fault?

If you’re dissatisfied with your insurance company’s decision on fault and believe the decision does not accurately reflect the circumstances of the accident, speak to the claims adjuster handling your file. Ask him or her what fault determination rule has been applied in your case.
Bring any new information to the attention of your insurance company. Generally, an insurance company will revise or reconsider its decision on fault only if additional, relevant information is provided. For example, if an accident occurred in which each driver stated that the other had gone through a red light, an insurance company would have little choice but to assign fifty-fifty fault. However, if an eyewitness confirmed which driver went through the red light, an insurance company could review its decision. If your insurance company refuses to revise its decision and you still disagree, contact your company’s complaint officer. He or she will guide you through the company’s complaint-handling procedures. If you continue to disagree, you may choose to pursue the matter in the courts.
In conclusion… don't think "no fault" means no blame. Your best bet is to drive safely, no matter what the insurance system. No one can find fault with that!
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-1-26 20:16 | 只看该作者
找了一圈没找到自己的贴了。上来说下处理完的结果,这次事故中我A车无需承担责任,B车赔偿我的损失,A车基本报废,保险公司那边估的价格,支票已经拿到。
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-1-26 20:18 | 只看该作者
@3DVRD:读了一下,长知识了
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发表于 2012-1-27 01:18 | 只看该作者
多谢给出处理结果,一锤定音真知已现,学习了,非常感谢
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发表于 2012-1-28 08:00 | 只看该作者
Post by maplemtl;3038618
找了一圈没找到自己的贴了。上来说下处理完的结果,这次事故中我A车无需承担责任,B车赔偿我的损失,A车基本报废,保险公司那边估的价格,支票已经拿到。

谢谢楼主有始有终,给出最终结果。也长见识了,本以为这种情况下A车只能自认倒霉呢。不知道楼主提供了什么证据或证人,才让保险公司相信B车有责任? 反正当初要是直接撞上B车,事情认定就容易多了
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-2-8 19:31 | 只看该作者
没有到提供证据和证人这一步,就反复解释了当时的情况,这样的案例说明确实是B车的责任吧
Post by lovelysummer;3039270
谢谢楼主有始有终,给出最终结果。也长见识了,本以为这种情况下A车只能自认倒霉呢。不知道楼主提供了什么证据或证人,才让保险公司相信B车有责任? 反正当初要是直接撞上B车,事情认定就容易多了
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发表于 2012-2-8 22:22 | 只看该作者
估计B车也真实反映了情况,B就成为A的有利证人。
当时B车主动停下来也能看出他是负责任的,如果他走了A车就麻烦。

这个事故可以成为案例。现在对yield right of way有了更深刻的理解,一定要yield到底,特别是左拐一定要让对面的车和行人。
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