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发表于 2010-11-7 17:58 | 显示全部楼层
Post by mon123;2727329
如果我们是为了签合同而抵制帝国,那正中帝国的下怀。他签你不是给你将成本,而是要压缩你的利润,他如果一起签,就不如现在这样,挑动群众斗群众,将矛盾转化,大店不满意利润率,可比下有余,中小店不满意,一抗争, 他马上就会顺水推舟,推出第二步计划,签部分中店,立即打碎你们的联盟。从而降下大部分店的利润率。

如果降下2%的利润率,以中等店100条每周的量,你会损失大约120元每周,或者6000元每年的损失。不要忘了,还有另外两家烟公司虎视眈眈你,要求你降价。
帝国这一招真毒啊!
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发表于 2010-11-8 02:38 | 显示全部楼层
拉帮结派和公开选举两种制度的较量,没想到这么快就见分晓,大局已定,严重恭喜。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-11-8 12:45 | 显示全部楼层
Post by WENDY2;2726274
我们目前成立了18个小支部,参加抵制帝国的朋友请打电话加入到就近的小支部或者朋友推荐的小支部均可,小支部是为了每一步操作都落实到。(请大家在生意低峰期打电话,不影响刷卡)

1. 刘忠全 514-279-6243 VILLEREY
2. 张 龙 514-659-5978 MONK
3. 李 刚 514-998-2139 TERREBONNE [EMAIL="OLYLEE@GMAIL.COM"]POLYLEE@GMAIL.COM[/EMAIL]
4. 郭 俊 514-660-2628 VEUDRIE-DORION [EMAIL="GUOJUN818@YAHOO.CA"]GUOJUN818@YAHOO.CA[/EMAIL]
5. 赖亚斌 514-386-5588 RDP
6. 郑 军 514-313-6405 南岸(MCMASTERVRLLE) [EMAIL="JJ650@HOTMAIL.COM"]JJ650@HOTMAIL.COM[/EMAIL]
7. 梁轶华 514-932-3223 PLACE-SAINT-HERRI [EMAIL="IANGYIHUA@HOTMAIL.COM"]IANGYIHUA@HOTMAIL.COM[/EMAIL]
8.杨晓鹏 514-768-1603 VERDUN [EMAIL="SUOBO@HOTMAIL.COM"]SUOBO@HOTMAIL.COM[/EMAIL]
9.牛 犇 514-710-3489 LASALLE
10. 薛绍华 514-937-6202 DOWNTOWN
11.宋 杰 450-676-9031 南岸(STE-HUBERT)
12.赵彦彪 514-634-8880 LACHINE
13.赵传澄 514-484-2906 NDG
14.杨永芳 450-462-1491 BROSSARD
15.王艳艳 514-767-9989 DE L'EGLISE
16.罗瑞佳 517-7955656 LAVAL以北 STE-THERESE
17.范范 514-526-6381 东区
18.李荣海 819-297-2675 三河
19 .王立强 418 681-3225 350 LAFAYETTE 魁北克
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发表于 2010-11-8 13:10 | 显示全部楼层
cindy.还有东区曾勇,514-5297498,
2211 gilford h2h 1h7
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-11-8 13:23 | 显示全部楼层
Post by WENDY2;2726274
我们目前成立了18个小支部,参加抵制帝国的朋友请打电话加入到就近的小支部或者朋友推荐的小支部均可,小支部是为了每一步操作都落实到。(请大家在生意低峰期打电话,不影响刷卡)

1. 刘忠全 514-279-6243 VILLEREY
2. 张 龙 514-659-5978 MONK
3. 李 刚 514-998-2139 TERREBONNE [EMAIL="OLYLEE@GMAIL.COM"]POLYLEE@GMAIL.COM[/EMAIL]
4. 郭 俊 514-660-2628 VEUDRIE-DORION [EMAIL="GUOJUN818@YAHOO.CA"]GUOJUN818@YAHOO.CA[/EMAIL]
5. 赖亚斌 514-386-5588 RDP
6. 郑 军 514-313-6405 南岸(MCMASTERVRLLE) [EMAIL="JJ650@HOTMAIL.COM"]JJ650@HOTMAIL.COM[/EMAIL]
7. 梁轶华 514-932-3223 PLACE-SAINT-HERRI [EMAIL="IANGYIHUA@HOTMAIL.COM"]IANGYIHUA@HOTMAIL.COM[/EMAIL]
8.杨晓鹏 514-768-1603 VERDUN [EMAIL="SUOBO@HOTMAIL.COM"]SUOBO@HOTMAIL.COM[/EMAIL]
9.牛 犇 514-710-3489 LASALLE
10. 薛绍华 514-937-6202 DOWNTOWN
11.宋 杰 450-676-9031 南岸(STE-HUBERT)
12.赵彦彪 514-634-8880 LACHINE
13.赵传澄 514-484-2906 NDG
14.杨永芳 450-462-1491 BROSSARD
15.王艳艳 514-767-9989 DE L'EGLISE
16.罗瑞佳 517-7955656 LAVAL以北 STE-THERESE
17.范范 514-526-6381 东区
18.李荣海 819-297-2675 三河
19.曾勇,514-5297498,2211 gilford h2h 1h7 东区
20.王立强 418 681-3225 350 LAFAYETTE 魁北克


又加了两个小支部!!
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-11-8 13:55 | 显示全部楼层
今天大家都收到JTI的信,因为是法语的,群里有朋友贴了英文的,我将它转贴过来。

November 1st, 2010
Dear Valued Business Partner,
Imperial Tobacco Company (ITCO) has recently offered select retailers the new Expansion program which sets maximum price ceilings on ITCO's brands。 It is intended to improve ITCO's bottom Sine, at the expense of your profits。
We believe that ITCO is abusing its dominant position in the marketplace and attempting to reduce competition。
Your profitability derived from the sale of tobacco products is critical to the success of your business。 Therefore, the ability to set your own margins is your right。 By participating in ITCO's program, your profits will be lowered on its brands in order to increase ITCO's market share in all segments。
ITCO is asking you to reduce your margin on its premium brands, alleging that it will increase traffic into your store。 However, you will lose traffic because you cannot be competitive in the value and super value segment based on the Expansion program's clause of lowest price for one of ITCO's products。 You will lose those adult consumers seeking the lowest priced cigarettes unless you drastically reduce your own profit margin in what is the fastest growing segment。
On top of the reduced margin you will take on premium, and losing competitiveness in the super value market, you may put in jeopardy contracts you already have with Canadian-based manufacturers。
At the end of the day, ask yourself whether you will truly benefit from this program。 You kmow what is best for your business。
We have enjoyed a strong relationship with you for many years, built on trust and mutual respect。 We know that by continuing to work together, we will continue to grow both of our businesses。
Our legal counsel has been engaged to take all appropriate steps。 We believe the Expansion program raises serious legal issues under the Federal Competition Act by lessening competition in the market。
This program will:
o  Eliminate effective price competition;
o  Unfairly discriminate between retailers;
o  Force retailers to increase the price of competitors' products;
o  Prevent entry of new brands;
o  Indirectly attempt to control the in-store signage; and,
o  Reduce the ability of consumers to make choices。
We also believe that by participating in the Expansion program it may be impossible for you to comply both with the conditions of such programs and with your current legal obligations towards JTI-Macdonald pursuant to our contracts, including your obligations with respect to pricing and signage。 We believe that ITCO is trying to induce you to breach your legal obligations towards us and interfere illegally with our economic interest。
You may have some questions and concerns about the validity of this program; you are not alone。 Please do not hesitate to get in touch with us to discuss further。
Sincerely,
JTI-MACDONALD CORP
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发表于 2010-11-8 14:27 | 显示全部楼层

这点运费不算啥吧,你订个最少量,他们还以为你这周需要的少了,起不了什么作用

一周不订,应该容易操作,大家商量好日期,需要的可以提前把货备齐,这种行动就是表态。一周如果有几百家店不订货,对大家都没有实际经济损失,却能起到不错的效果,支持。
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发表于 2010-11-8 14:29 | 显示全部楼层

这个格式很难看啊,谁收到了扫描一下发上来,不管英文法文,总有人能看懂的啦

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Post by WENDY2;2727931
今天大家都收到JTI的信,因为是法语的,群里有朋友贴了英文的,我将它转贴过来。

November 1st, 2010
Dear Valued Business Partner,
Imperial Tobacco Company (ITCO) has recently offered select retailers the new Expansion program which sets maximum price ceilings on ITCO's brands。 It is intended to improve ITCO's bottom Sine, at the expense of your profits。
We believe that ITCO is abusing its dominant position in the marketplace and attempting to reduce competition。
Your profitability derived from the sale of tobacco products is critical to the success of your business。 Therefore, the ability to set your own margins is your right。 By participating in ITCO's program, your profits will be lowered on its brands in order to increase ITCO's market share in all segments。
ITCO is asking you to reduce your margin on its premium brands, alleging that it will increase traffic into your store。 However, you will lose traffic because you cannot be competitive in the value and super value segment based on the Expansion program's clause of lowest price for one of ITCO's products。 You will lose those adult consumers seeking the lowest priced cigarettes unless you drastically reduce your own profit margin in what is the fastest growing segment。
On top of the reduced margin you will take on premium, and losing competitiveness in the super value market, you may put in jeopardy contracts you already have with Canadian-based manufacturers。
At the end of the day, ask yourself whether you will truly benefit from this program。 You kmow what is best for your business。
We have enjoyed a strong relationship with you for many years, built on trust and mutual respect。 We know that by continuing to work together, we will continue to grow both of our businesses。
Our legal counsel has been engaged to take all appropriate steps。 We believe the Expansion program raises serious legal issues under the Federal Competition Act by lessening competition in the market。
This program will:
o  Eliminate effective price competition;
o  Unfairly discriminate between retailers;
o  Force retailers to increase the price of competitors' products;
o  Prevent entry of new brands;
o  Indirectly attempt to control the in-store signage; and,
o  Reduce the ability of consumers to make choices。
We also believe that by participating in the Expansion program it may be impossible for you to comply both with the conditions of such programs and with your current legal obligations towards JTI-Macdonald pursuant to our contracts, including your obligations with respect to pricing and signage。 We believe that ITCO is trying to induce you to breach your legal obligations towards us and interfere illegally with our economic interest。
You may have some questions and concerns about the validity of this program; you are not alone。 Please do not hesitate to get in touch with us to discuss further。
Sincerely,
JTI-MACDONALD CORP
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-11-8 14:50 | 显示全部楼层

JTI的信(中文)

王华(老曹爱人)已经把JTI的信翻译如下

JTI-MACDONALD  致零售商的重要公告

最近帝国烟草公司向选中的部分零售商实施名为“扩展”的计划,这将涵盖所有帝国品牌,强迫零售商设定最高零售卖价。这个计划旨在以牺牲零售商利润为代价,最终提高帝国本身的利润率。我们坚信帝国烟草公司在滥用其在市场的主导地位,试图减少其他公司与其的竞争。
JTI与各零售商通过长期的合作,建立了相互信任和尊重。我们充分了解为了双方共同的利益,我们必须共同成长,同步前进。
我们的法律咨询顾问已经收到了指令,将在各种情况下采取必要的措施。我们认为帝国的这一计划涉及到了有关联邦竞争法的严重的司法问题,因其存在降低市场竞争力。
帝国这一计划:
将彻底废除香烟价位的有效竞争
使众多的零售商受到了不公平的歧视待遇
将强迫零售商提高竞争产品的价格
将阻止向市场推出新品牌
将企图在各零售点间接控制产品定价权
将减少消费者的选择
我们同时认为参加签约帝国这一计划的零售商在符合帝国要求的同时,无法履行JTI与零售商设定的法律义务,包括定价权。我们坚信帝国烟草企图诱使零售商违背与JTI界定的法律义务,从而最终非法地损害我们的经济利益。
如有任何相关问题,请与JTI公司联系
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发表于 2010-11-8 16:58 | 显示全部楼层
没有全部翻译出来,且有的地方翻译的不准确,不过也很好了。
但下面这句话,翻译内容和原文有很大出入:我们认为帝国的这一计划涉及到了有关联邦竞争法的严重的司法问题,因其存在降低市场竞争力。原文是:We believe the Expansion program raises serious legal issues under the Federal Competition Act by lessening competition in the market。大概意思是:我们认为(帝国烟草的这个)扩展计划导致了严重的法律问题(也就是:招惹到了法律上的麻烦,触犯了法律的意思),因为该计划在试图降低市场上的竞争,从而违反了联邦竞争法。
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