谈谈老外

[阳光女孩]

结交了好几个高鼻子朋友，为了锻炼语言，可交往下来，发现真的很难找到真正愿意因为对中文或文化好奇而与中国人交往的老外。有时真想为了语言大胆的迈一步，但总是在最后但却了，想和有此经验的朋友交流交流。

[ronado]

你认为是重要的，就不要放弃；你认为可以用于换取更重要的东西的，那就只管行动。价值观因人而异，一切只在你自己。但是一旦做出决定是没有后悔、很难回头的。

[今夜做梦也会笑]

迈吧，没什么可退却的。

其实就那么点事儿，大家心里都门儿清，没必要为自己找借口。

Do what u want.

[ronado]

我个人认为，语言等问题可以通过其他途径解决，但是自身的价值观一旦改变，对今后的道路影响甚大。当然，我说过，价值观因人而异。

[今夜做梦也会笑]

忘了告诉阳光女孩：

我不会眼睁睁看着你网火坑里跳的

——因为到那时我会将眼睛闭上。

[哈哈哈]

为了语言大胆的迈一步? 疯了？ :o :confused:

[withwind]

在我看来，迈那一步，无可无不可，但不要为了什么，更不要考虑什么值得不值得。
人世间的一切，是自然赐给我们的，如果你觉得快乐，尽管去做好了，但是为了利益交换，就失去了本来的意义了。
记得上大学的时候，我很喜欢一个女孩子。有一次那个女孩子无意间说起想看一个电影，我就花了半个月的生活费去买了两张票，然后去问那个女孩，愿不愿意和我一起去。女孩犹豫了一下，我已经明白了一切，挥挥手说把两张票都给了她，说你愿意和谁一起去就一起去好了。
一个哥们听说了这件事，对我说：你真她妈是个傻逼，花这么多钱，能跟她上床还差不多，你却什么都没得到。记得我当时响亮的给了他一巴掌，因为他玷污了我心目中的美好。
学外语，有很多途径，不一定要做出什么让步牺牲。而寻找你真心喜欢那些西人小伙子，就另当别论了。

[Mr.NiHow]

In the brain of most WHITE, China or Chinese are still a backward or terrible one, they don't understand China and they don't care. We shouldn't regard those as friends.

[花蝴蝶]

Hi sunnygirl,
You can learn language in any way and do not give up something.
If you like him,It is ok.But only for language,I don't think it is a good choice.
Good luck~~ wink wink wink

[dayie]

in the eye of most white people,china is still a developing and undemocatic country.when they metion the eatern culutre,they prefer jananese even korean culture rather than the root of the easter culture -chinese culture.
in case you would like to scrifice your body, definately they will be interested in you,of course not in your language but in your body.and if you only wanna pass TOEFL or other english test,learining english from them is useless.
instead learning from me may be a good solution. :D

[tryit]

I think who you are geting along with are bad WHITE. If he is a gentleman, he'll care you and love you instead of just caring about sex.

Don't do it just for language!

In fact, our Chinese guys can also give you help in language. Most of them are nice!

Withwind, you are a real man!

[tryit]

Dayie is telling the true!

假如仅仅为语言而牺牲，你就掉价了. In their mind, you
Chinese women are so CHEAP!

For developing language skills, try to make friends with CBC(Canadian borned Chinese) or White girls!

[asdfdsa]

silly girl, i feel i am responsible to persuade you from devoting yourself, it is useless to study language in this way, if you love , do it, if you only want to improve english, go to university, that is all.

[finger]

关于朋友这个话题，我在另一个情感专栏，摘了关于张国荣的的

一篇文章，里面有所提。兴趣相投是最重要的，只有这样也只能

长久，本来那次在回上一个贴时也想到了这个话题，但那次有事

只能收笔，老外也是人，所以中国的很多哲学当然也适用，只要

记住“己所不预，莫施于人”我想就够了，如果有人和你交朋友

是带着功利的目的，你能爽吗？你如果带着以为自己是救世主的

心情去交往，结果常常很失望，久阿久之，甚至对整个国人都没

有了信心。那就迂了！和老外交朋友也是一样，如果你要想真的

融进去，也就是练语言（这无可厚非，要不我们以后怎样工作、

生活？）那就展示真的自己，志同道合（是一类人）大家就多在

一起交往，如果不是（老外中坏人也很多），那要很明白的让他

们知道，别让他们小瞧了我们，他要是敢作坏事，拿出点中国女

性的勇敢，把MONTREAL给他闹个天翻地覆。
过于练语言，我也有同感，学到一个阶段，如果想进行深层次的交流，确实不易，这和大家一起作试验，探讨问题都不一样，如果没有一个老外对出现的新的词语、用法作详细的解释，交流很难进行下去，提高也就更不用说。但也不是没有别的方法，和老外交谈主要练的是口语，但对自己的其他一些方便提高也是不大，但如果你要在别的方面提高了，同样对口语会很有帮助，困难也就是开头的两分种半而已。背对话就是一种方法。顺便提一下，我英语不错，如果相对于这个论坛的大多数人，应该是非常好，但我还是喜欢用汉语表达自己的观点，如果我想练英语写作的话，我不会上这个网站。

[gladgirl]

你们的观点我都同意
西人和我们从小接受的思想教育都不一样
他们觉得一些事情是很normal和natural的
也不要责骂西人
他们就是这样的一个habits
一切事情决定于你的想法了
按我自己的经历
我觉得他们还是打心眼儿里歧视
虽然表面上看起来过的去
sigh

[Huaxia]

你是个很可爱的女孩,既有头脑又坦诚,我到有一些经验可以和你分享,当你尽情展示你的中国人的自尊自爱时,当你以中国人而骄傲时,当你可以丰富,全面的介绍中国的时候,你一定是个很有魅力的人,你就不但只是一个中国女孩的原因了.你想有好的外国朋友,一定要得到他们的尊重,文化就是这样,民族性就是国际性,当你有典型的文化特征时,你就有很大的吸引力了,他们会敬佩你,而不会小瞧你.欢迎分享,我的EMAIL;z8v@hotmail.com

[tropical]

在这找个白人男朋友挺正常的，毕竟白人比中国人多很多，选择的范围大。不过好像大多数本地人，都是为爱情而爱情。你就时刻准备着吧。

[阳光女孩]

迈出一步并非如有的朋友所想的SEX,自已也不会为了语言就轻而易举的把自己给奉献了，交往的外国朋友也大多是有高等教育的，品行较好的，有的我也略有好感。但每每知道了对方对我有超越朋友的意思时，装胡涂对我来说太痛苦了，但也害怕踏进泥地后，发现真正能了解的很少，因为我始终相信真正适合我们还是中国男同胞，（虽然他们经常在帖子上说中国女同胞的坏话)。

谢谢HUAXIA，双手赞成你的观点，只是需要我们更用力学语言才行。

to dbdn
不知道你是男孩还是女孩，如果是女孩也许你已经有过类似的经验，才会有此感慨，
但如果你是BOY，请对自己有信心一点，为什么你们比我们女孩还重视一些关乎于数字的东东，SEX对于大多数的女的来说，情的成分是很重要的，你想让对方快乐，那些数字并不代表什么，更何况科学家不告诉你们了方法了吗。

[cbwf]

阳光女孩,
你敢于把心里的想法说了出来,为你鼓掌了

其实人的所为都有目的性的.

[angela price]

I love chinese boy. only ugly chinese girl will date with Canadian boy.

[阳光女孩]

很赞成finger对英语的看法，和老外交流在最初的一月进步可谓飞速，但到了后面如果没有更多的阅读写作做基础，进步就会骤减，如果朋友们没有准备和白人或黑人生活的打算，我们以前在国内发奋图强的干劲还是很重要的，不过有点苦

[哈哈哈]

dbdn,

i have to say you are just a frog who lived at the bottom of a deep, dark well; i have many chinese friends married with white girl and live a happy life. sure, sex is a part of the life, but it seems sex is the only thing in your life :D :D :D

阳光女孩,

you are not experienced enough to judge what's in a man's mind. :) :)

[dayie]

what a logic?happy = sex = size?it ridiculous!

when marring with forign,you must guess what is his thought today,maybe you will be dumped tomorrow when you lost the secret eastern charm ,'coz those white man will probably change their mate 4 times in a life in average according to survey.
when you are alone again,you will find you lose yourself,neither accepted by the westerner nor the chinese.
to be a mate of chinese,you will feel comfortable and safety because you are equal both in spirit and mind.

[dayie]

by the way,who know where is an better english forum to practise english.I check some newgroup but it looks like very few people inside and their topics are not interested.

[Mr.NiHow]

Good Morning, funny world!

There will be a day,chinese culture be as popular as chinese food, chinese become wealthy, rich and strong.There will be a day Chinese be the first languages in the world.

All the chineses boys be attention: don't bring white girls into your bed to teach Chinese.

Could you not want doing that?

[gladgirl]

人生苦短
在意那么多干嘛
这年头儿
谁care谁啊 :cool:
看开点
怎么高兴怎么来
在我看来最痛苦的事情莫过于做违背自己感觉的事情

[duyao]

Hi, girls, there is not big deal, i mean if you wanna it just do it. western boy are not alway bad. it's all the same i mean there are still have so sweet and tender gay you can love. My boyfriend is canadian and he give me lots of things i haven't have with my old chinese boyfriend (notjust sex). So good luck.

[juweihueizhuren1]

据群众要求，特推荐为大家做点事。
到加拿大大家工作学习都很忙，但是未婚的，已婚的，离婚的都面临解决感情方面的问题，需要认识更多的朋友，但是没有时间；需要深入了解，更没有时间，不了解就没有办法判断是否和意，所以孤独，单身的人很多。
现在几个朋友提议，让我这个老大姐出来，给大家合计合计，戳和戳和，大家有意愿的把大家的个人情况告诉我（绝对保密），要求告诉我，帮你们张罗，大家说 好不好？ :D

[haohaoxuexi]

老外的英语不一定比中国人强， 如果不仅停留在讲点SLANG， 开点荤笑话的层次。
不少中国人的写作能力就强得多。
真正的高尚英语不是找个老外男友女友就解决了。 除非你真的好想学市井英语。

[thanksgive]

sunny girl: I do understand what you said, sometimes I feel the same. It's not easy to be a friend indeed with western guys because of the culture difference. Alhough western guys are interested in orient culture/girls somehow, as friends they will be more interested in you than Chinese culture. They would like to go out or talk with u but not too many topics on China!
And usually they don't offer help as much as you expect. I guess that's why chinese girls prefer to marry with chinese men.
Anyway since it's not difficult to find partners to practice english or french, if u only want to improve your foreign language, you don't have to be somebody's girlfriend unless u really like him in person. wink

[share]

"And usually they don't offer help as much as you expect."

Agree with Thanksgive. I have a normal friend, well educated White. We get along together pretty well, but it is not easy to count on him for some help like moving and repairing. Instead, some Chinese boys are very helpful even we don't share the common interest. I guess that is why Chinese men generally make girls feel more secure and cherished.

JJMM,how do you think of this?

[rtesw2314]

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[Jcell]

To dayie,

Are you really from yellowknife? Are you Chinese?

[shamoa]

Is it true? you are really do a good thing for others. How to contact you?

据群众要求，特推荐为大家做点事。
到加拿大大家工作学习都很忙，但是未婚的，已婚的，离婚的都面临解决感情方面的问题，需要认识更多的朋友，但是没有时间；需要深入了解，更没有时间，不了解就没有办法判断是否和意，所以孤独，单身的人很多。
现在几个朋友提议，让我这个老大姐出来，给大家合计合计，戳和戳和，大家有意愿的把大家的个人情况告诉我（绝对保密），要求告诉我，帮你们张罗，大家说 好不好？ :D

[Grrrr]

很赞成finger对英语的看法，和老外交流在最初的一月进步可谓飞速，但到了后面如果没有更多的阅读写作做基础，进步就会骤减，如果朋友们没有准备和白人或黑人生活的打算，我们以前在国内发奋图强的干劲还是很重要的，不过有点苦
大多数女孩，还都是相信happy marriage是一生中最重要的事情之一的，对这种女孩，还是找个文化差异小的，比较能够彻底了解对方对你的感情，2 个人在一起面对事情的时候，配合起来也比较容易。（我屋里面的2个老外室友，对我每天喝热水永远不能理解）

还有一种女孩，虚荣心比较强，只要是白人，即使不会英语法语，她们也赶快靠上去，起码可以拍张照片，发回国内炫耀一下，当然能嫁给老外，那更是求之不得了。

对于长相不算sunny的，还是找老外吧~~ :) 他们眼光比我们的好，更容易发现妮的美。

至于学语言，实际上全靠自己下功夫，即使是全日制英语班，班里大多数人还都认为提高不大~~
:cool:
以上个人观点纯属胡说八道~:eek!:

[ucwcpxng]

Try chinese guy like me




sunny girl: I do understand what you said, sometimes I feel the same. It's not easy to be a friend indeed with western guys because of the culture difference. Alhough western guys are interested in orient culture/girls somehow, as friends they will be more interested in you than Chinese culture. They would like to go out or talk with u but not too many topics on China!
And usually they don't offer help as much as you expect. I guess that's why chinese girls prefer to marry with chinese men.
Anyway since it's not difficult to find partners to practice english or french, if u only want to improve your foreign language, you don't have to be somebody's girlfriend unless u really like him in person. wink